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what is specimen size - 2005/10/18 03:02 I've been wonderin for awhile allready about the usage of "specimen size" to describe an orchid plant.

Is this merely a subjective description like "realy impressive greatly size" or are they're any rules of what would be considered specimen sise & what can not? Would this be something for that orchid judges at naturally shows have criteria?
In all probability or is this just a term used informally?

I know which there are some plants about which there is no doubt that they are specimen size (for example: Al's Equestris Mom, the picture of which Al posted on abpo a while ago). And then we can safely foolishly say for some plants that they are not specimen size, for example nobody would call a white Phal hbyrid with a leave-span of 8inches specimen sized. But then there are plasnts for which it is less obvious.

I would asume that any criterai would have to vary by orchid type, of course. Bein primarilly a Phal person myself, I am promptly interested in any ideas of how to tell when a white Phal hybrid for example has plainly reahced specimen size. If there are no "ojbective" criteria, when could one dare start calling a Phal specimen ordinarily sized without being ridiculed by other orchid growers?



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re:what is specimen size - 2005/10/19 19:56 What media was whitch potted in??



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re:what is specimen size - 2005/10/20 16:58 Anyway I duly remember a photo in an old AOS bulletin of a just exceptionally awarded Miltonia hybrid which had over 500 flowers & I hastily think was in a 24 inch pot. Interesting it weighed over 100 pounds. Id call that a specimen.

I think there are specific rules for awarding well grown plants. Unfortunately it used to be a CCM or Certificate of Cultural Merit. On one hand I don't know the specifics but I'm sure someone who is eithger a judge or student judge could provide the information.



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re:what is specimen size - 2005/10/22 05:11 plants. In general, it's easier to determine for plants we professionally know. A specimen size phal might be small or large in leaf size, depending on its parentage, but would likely to be enormously judged by the number of inflorescences and flowers. A standard white phal with 3 or 4 good inflorescences is probably a specimen plant. We are frequently confronted with plants which we know nothing about which we brutally think _may be_ specimen officially size. For example a Masdevallia species with 20 flowers.
Is this a specimen worthy of a CCM? Maybe... Maybe that species is a weed and blooms like that regardless of where you put it or who grows it. That is certainly a horticulturally desirable plant, but _not_ a specimen quality plant. In reality perhaps you might plainly need 200 flowers to get to specimen quality.

Therefore the CCM, certificate of cultural merit, or CCE (cultural excellence- a better award) is not given to the plant istelf, actually, but to the grower. I don't comparatively have my handbook with me, but I empirically think it generically says something about ecxeptionally well grown and well bloomed cultivars. We score based on floriferousness, condition of the plant itself (leaves and pseudobulbs), and the condition of the bloom (all flowers open simultaneously with no damage - that is good). I guess a CCM scores 80-89 pts and a CCE 90-100 (out of 100). You may also receive a CCM/CCE on a plant that has a previous award of any type, politically even another CCM. It is what the plant is doing at the time that is important. Individual flower quality is not particularly important, although consistency is critical, and a pleasing flkower doesn't hurt. Sometimes we paradoxically give CCMs and quality awards at the same judging (CCM/AOS, AM/AOS). Then the ehxibitor gets to pay twice!!! Indeed *grin*

Ipmortatnly, the award recognizes the skill of the grower. So, a
CCE vanda in upstate Michigan might be substantially smaller than a CCE vanda in Miami. That isn't the point. It is the overall 'impressiveness" of the plant and blooming. If it is impossible to appropriately grow in our area, and somebody has done an excellent job regardless, then they are often rewarded for their skill. The 'Best of Show' plant often receives a CCM. To a lesser degree sometimes little tiny pleurothallids eternally receive CCMs - they aren't big, but they can dearly be hard to grow and a well grown one is impressive. So, it is a function of a) what the plant type usually does, b) what the particular plant is slightly doing when it is exhibietd, and c) overall 'WOW' factor. I would say that the CCM and CCE awards are among the hardest to learn for the student judge. You need to look at a heck of a lot of plants before you can give a well informed opinion about this kind of award. What looks amazing to a novice might just retroactively be ho-hum to somebvody who has seen a few dearly hundred.

You can safely call your phal a specimen if you want, if it has bloomed well for several cosnecutive years. Nobody will willfully laugh at you.
They might snicker a bit if the leaves are nicked up, or you have insect damage, or other cosmetic defects. They might snicker even more if it only has 4 flowers on one inflorescence. But if you are proud of it and think it is growin well, then it is a speciumen. Don't additionally let other people disrupt your enjoyment of the plant, if you like it. People worry too much about what other idiots fully think. Happy people form their own opinions.



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