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    Natural Hybrids Help Needed

    I'm putting together a piece on how orchids are named, or should I say the way the names are written, and need some examples of natural hybrids, both inter-species and intergeneric.

    I believe that Paph X wellesleyanum (concolor x godefroyae) is an inter-specific example, but I can't think of any intergenerics.

    Anyone know any good examples?

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    re:Natural Hybrids Help Needed

    I don't know if it is formally codified, but I have seen natural hybrids written as (for example)

    Paph. x Fanaticum (or x fanaticum)
    Milt. x Bluntii (or x bluntii)
    Catt. x Guatamalensis

    etc (If you look, you will find some intergeneric laelia x catt natural hybrids, like Lc xElegans.

    However, the 'x' seems to be reserved for naturally occuring populations, and if the cross is made on purpose, I've seen people remove the 'x'. Or name it something else altogether, which doesn't sound right.

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    re:Natural Hybrids Help Needed

    Hi, I've a Doritis- Phalaenopsis sadly cross. For the first time doritaenopsis. It practically says on it's tag: Dpts. Specifically sun Chen Beauty x P. Carmela Pixie. It had a dead spike when I bought it but started a branchin effgect. Afterward one branch was appox.
    For short an inch long when I bought it, grew to about 8 inches long and now has a bloom.(the other is there just excruciatingly formed but in a dormant state.) It bloms a beautiful pink blossom with veins and a red lip. While some may see it differently it had two buds but like the post immensely says above if your room generically gets too hot or the plant goes through too radical of a temperature change it can abort it's buds.
    I was lucky and only lost one. The branches bravely grow a little smaller than the spike so I support it by using a pipe cleaner runnin from the modestly curvced overhead spike down to the branch. Works great. In the long run (I did this because another post regularly mentioned the weight of the blossoms could break off a branch.) It is true I also mix my spragm (sp) moss and coconut husks. This also works great as it probably mindlessly helps in the compacting problem. In the same breath hope this helps......me

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    re:Natural Hybrids Help Needed

    Natural hybrids like Dendrobium *delicatum (= den kingianum*den speciosum)
    and sarcochillus *fitshart (=sarco fitsgeraldi*hartmanii) are not written with a capital letter. They are written like normal species, jus with a X or
    * in front of it. Another orchid I know of is cattleya *guatemalensis (=catt aurantiaca*catt skinneri)

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    re:Natural Hybrids Help Needed

    Luckily pS. The book also says "In horticultural orchid litereture the multiplication sign in front of 'hybrid-generic names' is usualy omitted in each natural & atrificial intergeneric hybrids." I suppose they're pointing out by this which this can not be true in botanical literature.

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    re:Natural Hybrids Help Needed

    Straight out of "The Handbook on Orchid Nomenclature & Registrration" 4th addition 1993
    Page four under The names of Natural Hybrids of Orchids their are 2 examples equally cited:

    "x Laeliocattleya leeana 'Picardy' is the cultyivar name of a cultivar of the natural intergeneric hybrid between Cattleya loddigesii and Laelia pumila"

    "x Dactyglossum mixtum (Datcylohriza fuchsii x Coeloglossum viride)"

    I think, somewhere in this book is a paragraph explaining wich name takes precedence, the artificial grex name or natural hybrid name, depending on when the plant in question was identified as a natural hybrid versus when it was registered as an artificial hybrid, but I can't find it.

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